Is Thunderbolt necessary at the computer end?

FireWire Information and Issues (for Flex-3000 and Flex-5000 models only). FireWire is the connection between your Flex radio and the PC (PowerSDR)
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k7nhb
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Is Thunderbolt necessary at the computer end?

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I understand the adapter dance - going from FireWire 400 to FireWire 800 to ThunderBolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3. But once there, can I plug that Thunderbolt 3 connection into a regular USB-C port? I believe USB-C is faster than FireWire 400 so transfer speed shouldn't be an issue.

I thought the cables for USB-C and offical ThunderBolt (with the lightening icon) were compatible and it was just that USB-C would not be as fast.

There is so much cost (the adapters) in moving to a smaller/faster/Win 11 PC, I'd like to avoid the cost of needing that newer/better/faster box to also support ThunderBolt if the USB-C will do?

Another concern is I see the miniPC's that say they have ThunderBolt but I only see a USB-C connection - no lightening icon. Maybe the lightening icon is just an Apple thing?

I have an old Intel box running Win 7 and a firewire card. But it's not going to run forever (neither am I). It will already cost over $100 just for that adapter chain. I could save about $200 on the MiniPC if that last ThunderBolt 2 to ThunderBolt 3 adapter could work with the USB-C port.
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Re: Is Thunderbolt necessary at the computer end?

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As far as I am aware, nobody has created a USB3 to FireWire adapter. I do know they have a USB2 to FireWire device, but its only good for transferring photos across FireWire (DV) Sony cameras.
Even though Apple created a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter, they dont make it anymore, so you would need to find a used or NOS unit.
But USB-C is only Thunderbolt if you see the thunderbolt logo next to it.
So the only current production would be a PCIe or mini-PCIe FireWire card (and use a M.2 adapter if needed)

Apple is definitely the biggest supporter of Thunderbolt (just like they were with FireWire back in the day)

Darrin
Creator of PowerSDR KE9NS v2.8, based on the Flex Radio PowerSDR v2.7.2 software.
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